Fideriser Heuberge (2000 m) Berghaus Arflina

Alpen, Rätische Alpen, Prättigau, Graubünden

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Schotter-Flagge?

mhuell, 22.06.2023, 22:31 Uhr 22.06.2023, 22:33 Uhr

Stand 06/2023: Es gibt im mittleren Abschnitt nach wie vor drei Passagen mit Naturstrasse bzw. losen gröberen Steinen (kein eigentlicher Schotter); steht etwas versteckt so auch in der Beschreibung der Auffahrt. Länge zusammen ca. 2.5km der 12.5km Auffahrt. Daher sollte man evtl. die Schotter-Flagge setzen? Vom "einzigen waschechten Asphalt–2000er–Anstieg des Prättigaus" kann aktuell allerdings keine Rede (mehr) sein. Die drei Segmente sind mit dem Rennrad gut fahrbar und sollten die meisten RR-Fahrer nicht von einer Befahrung der Heuberge abhalten - Puristen würde ich diese Auffahrt aber dennoch nicht empfehlen.

Detail am Rande: Der Ort heisst korrekt "Fideriser Heuberge".
PatrickG, 23.06.2023, 22:26 Uhr

Habe jetzt mal Schotter gesetzt. Der Eintrag ist ja offensichtlich uralt, damals gab es noch keine Tags und Flags ;-)

Namen habe ich auch geändert.
Uwe, 24.06.2023, 11:39 Uhr 24.06.2023, 11:45 Uhr auf PatrickG

Hallo Patrick!

Die Beschreibung existierte schon als ich da in 2008 rauf geeiert bin. Andernfalls hätte ich den Hügel beschrieben, aber Stefan war vor mir da ;-)

Viele Grüße, Uwe

Edit hat im Tourenplaner noch nachgesehen, von wem der Track kommt und mich beschuldigt, kein Feedback eingestellt zu haben. Das gab es damals vermutlich noch nicht, zumindest noch nicht für mich... Damals habe ich auch meine Tracks noch nicht selbst aufbereitet, sonst gäbe es Ortsmarken an den Belagswechseln. Für mich ist 2008 zu lange her, so dass ich da auch nicht blind nachbessern werde.
stb72, 24.06.2023, 12:21 Uhr 24.06.2023, 12:21 Uhr

Das ist sogar meine erste quaeldich.de Beschreibung 😉, also bin ich auch uralt 😵

Ich erinnere mich, dass ich dort ohne tags und flags nur anhand eines Papierarmins hochgefahren bin ...
Uwe, 24.06.2023, 13:06 Uhr auf stb72

Hallo Stefan!

Ich habe meinen ersten Garmin kurz vor dem Urlaub 2008 bekommen und dann damit deine ganzen Beschreibungen in der Gegend nachbearbeitet. Die eigene Aufbereitung der Daten habe ich erst nach dem Urlaub gelernt.

Ich bin vermutlich deutlich älter als du, falls ich deinen Nicknamen richtig deute. Aber dafür bin ich schon länger bei QD unterwegs als manche Leute hier alt sind ;-) Die fahren dann noch Rennrad, wenn ich Rollator fahre.

Viele Grüße, Uwe

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tourenvideo - Fideriser Heuberg

gyorgyigabor, 14.02.2012, 21:53 Uhr 11.03.2012, 23:56 Uhr

Hello !
Meine Full HD video kann man hier sehen (Fideriser Heuberg von 4:15)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO5GUgX-koA

Gábor
TicinoBergler46, 15.02.2012, 20:55 Uhr 11.03.2012, 23:56 Uhr

Hi Gábor,
Fideriser Heuberge is high up in my wishlist.
Is it as beautiful as Alp Anarosa?
Regards
Klaus
gyorgyigabor, 15.02.2012, 21:15 Uhr 11.03.2012, 23:56 Uhr auf TicinoBergler46

Hello Klaus,
Unfortunatelly I cycled Alp Anarosa in rain, so I don't know about the views there :-( But as I look the pics of Alp Anarosa by QD, I think Alp Anarose is more beutiful. But I have to say: Fideriser heuberge climb is also nice and lovely with views, but that's an "average nice" climb; for me Nagens is much more wonderful, or Alpe Galm (Wallis) or Bettmeralp.
But I can suggest Berghaus Nagens about which I also have video and I had there wonderful weather.
These climbs are great, while there are almost no traffic there. :)

Regards,
Gabor
TicinoBergler46, 16.02.2012, 17:22 Uhr 11.03.2012, 23:56 Uhr auf gyorgyigabor

Hi Gábor,
Bettmeralp and Alpe Galm (especially access from Getwing) belong also to my favorits. In Wallis I would also add Col du Sanetsch and Moosalp, followed by Giw and Schinerewissy (upper half unpaved).
Your Nagens video invites for a ride up but for me the place it is rather remote.
Where do you stand with your unbelievable target to ride all paved accesses above 2000m?
Regards
Klaus
gyorgyigabor, 16.02.2012, 23:24 Uhr 11.03.2012, 23:56 Uhr auf TicinoBergler46

I found here in QD, that after I arrived back 2 new ones was appeared in Switzerland; one that you added.
About Giw I saw here that it didn't finish paved, besides I was unfortunate when I cycled to Scimfuss, because after the junction and that small "hill" and bends the pavement was over (only 20 cm wide), so I turned back.... maybe forgot that later it is paved again totally. So I missed there ca. 1 km, but I visited lago della Sella.
If I see it serious, at that section I can't say that that's an asphaltroad, but it's true that it could be ridden.

Except that I did all - about I had informations. At Diga campomoro the main road goes up to only 1990m, but there was a concrete road to right (steep), on that I cycled above 2000m.
I had infos that from Poschiavo a paved road goes up to Albertüsc. I cycled it in rain, but the pavement was over above 1500m. (I cycled another 1km on dirt road to controll it)

For this year I don't plan 2-3 week long tours, but - because of my conscience I will visit Scimfuss and the other two ones.
But nevertheless after my last tour I consider that I have all. (I published here the new ones, that weren't listed).
A challenge like this can only be handled that an aim can be handled: visiting all of those, about that I have informations. Because after few weeks new ones can be discovered and / or can be bitumenized, like Alpe di Cava was done partly.
I cycled that too, but as the pavement ended I turned back - I forgot the details of your description, that few kms pavement is missed.
By the way: by QD Zmutt (above Zermatt) is written that it can be paved up to 2000 m, but really the road is paved only to 1970m, to the dam.
My english travelogue about that 3 week long tour should have been finished in 2 weeks time.

Bettmeralp was a real surprise for me: such a serious village up there with wonderful views! Great! But upwards I lost the paved road at ca. 1500 m, but downwards Iit was OK.
Moosalp is beautiful too.

PS: I was happy to visit Alpage Mandelon (starting at Sion), a swiss ascent that you didn't listed and cycled in Wallis :) Not simple to find one, that you don't know :-) It was a fortune.

Regards,
Gábor
( I send you an e-mail too, not to write here too much about other things, that have no connection to this ascent ...)
AP, 17.02.2012, 13:42 Uhr 11.03.2012, 23:56 Uhr auf gyorgyigabor

Nevertheless, Gabor, it is an astonishing enterprise to cycle all those roads above 2000m in the Alps. Also, from what I´ve read and heard, you did all the 2000 in the Pyrenees as well, didn´t you?

So now you could go on looking for other 2000 climbs in other European mountains....2 at least are still waiting for you in Italy
Renko, 17.02.2012, 15:16 Uhr 11.03.2012, 23:56 Uhr auf AP

Maybe there is something in Bulgaria?
And for sure there are numerous in Georgia and Armenia...
The possibilities are endless......
AP, 17.02.2012, 18:41 Uhr 11.03.2012, 23:56 Uhr auf Renko

Speaking about endless possibilities we could also mention missed possibilities. I know someone who cycled through Zabljak and didn´t spot the 2000 climb close to it.....
Renko, 17.02.2012, 22:50 Uhr 11.03.2012, 23:56 Uhr auf AP

Oh, that WAS a serious lapse!
And what name would this little nugget go under?
AP, 18.02.2012, 08:12 Uhr 11.03.2012, 23:56 Uhr auf Renko

Non lo so.....there is a road pass called Stolac in the northwest of Zabljak, just on the rim of Tara Canyon. On googleearth you can see another road going up from the pass to some sort of transmitter station or whatever it is on the top of a mountain, clearly above 2000....
Renko, 18.02.2012, 09:16 Uhr 11.03.2012, 23:56 Uhr auf AP

Fascinating!
How depressing to discover, after tours to far away places, that one always ends up having left something valuable behind...
gyorgyigabor, 20.02.2012, 10:44 Uhr 11.03.2012, 23:56 Uhr auf AP

Hello ,
Yes I "finished Pyrenées last year, here is the list:
http://www.gyorgyigabor.hu/Pireneusok_emelk_lista.php
This weekend I changed the videor uls by those climbs which are higher than 2000m, while few months ago most of my videos were deleted unfortunately by youtube when the 15 min length-limit was "set free".
I'm not sure but maybe I will visit Pico Veleta and 2 others there, but I will see and for few days I will return somewhere, maybe Grossglockner, that I cycled 13 years ago (!) without videocamera :-(
And yes, I know, that in the Appenines there are few ones, but Blockhaus is a serious, challenging one with more ascents, like Mt Ventoux. But as Ticinobegleiter discovered a new one abopve 2000m in Switzerland and another guy another one: http://www.quaeldich.de/paesse/bergstation-alp-giop/ maybe I will visit them too. during a short trip.
gyorgyigabor, 20.02.2012, 10:54 Uhr 11.03.2012, 23:56 Uhr auf AP

Yes, the mountains by Zabljak are wonderful. I cycled only 2-3 days in Montenegro, but it was great! UNfortunately I didn't cycle Tara canyon and those mountains, but as I know, that road isn't paved. Pic here:
http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Europe/Montenegro/North/Zabljak/Zabljak/photo308497.htm
But what are great and wonderful roads along the Adriatic, they are:
http://www.quaeldich.de/paesse/sveti-jure/
photos here: http://www.challenge-big.eu/en/big/photos/889
and Njegos Mausoleum at Lovcen with beautiful panorama:
http://www.travelblog.org/Photos/5277229
..
I found a german travelogue about a bicycletour there: onto great mountains too:
http://www.birkhofer.ch/velotouren/balkan-2009/

Gabor
gyorgyigabor, 20.02.2012, 11:09 Uhr 11.03.2012, 23:56 Uhr auf gyorgyigabor

....looking at the climbs in the Pyrenées I liked Tourmalet very much, Cirque Troumouse also could be one of the most beautiful ones, but unfortunately I had rainy weather there. I liked Coma Morera with 360 degrees panorama, Arcalis too (Tour de France history + beautiful landscape) and the road to Presa l'Lauset although it's road is very-very poor.
Generally I think in the Pyrenées there are not so many motorbikers than in the Alps, and I enjoyed that :-) and maybe the Pyrenées is not so busy than the Alps, it's calmer / more calm.
Uwe, 07.03.2012, 21:04 Uhr 11.03.2012, 23:56 Uhr auf gyorgyigabor

Hallo!

Do you know this?
http://www.quaeldich.de/paesse/baergli/
Uwe
gyorgyigabor, 09.03.2012, 00:41 Uhr 11.03.2012, 23:56 Uhr auf Uwe

Hello Uwe,
Yes, I read about it, but reading this ("Auf ca. 1650 m Höhe endet der Asphalt, und ein Fahrbahnbelag aus Recycling-Asphalt beginnt.") I thought I would skip it, because it is not paved / asphalted road.
What does it mean "recycling asphalt" ?

Best regards,
Gabor
Uwe, 09.03.2012, 08:03 Uhr 11.03.2012, 23:56 Uhr auf gyorgyigabor

Hallo!
"Recycling-Asphalt" is paved, but not very hard. It is harder than gravel but not like normal "Asphalt".
Sorry, my English...
Best regards, Uwe
gyorgyigabor, 11.03.2012, 23:56 Uhr auf Uwe

Thanks, Uwe:-)
This year I may visit this too.

Best regards,
Gabor